DesktopLinux
Home  |  News  |  Articles  |  Forum  |  Polls  |  Blogs  |  Videos  |  Resource Library

Keywords: Match:
Vista SP1: Still lagging behind the Linux desktop
Mar. 04, 2008

Review -- I had really thought that Vista SP1 would be an improvement. I didn't think it would be a big improvement, but still that it would be more competitive with Windows XP and the modern Linux desktop. I was wrong.

I've now been working with Vista SP1, the so-called RTM (release to manufacturing) version, for about two weeks. I am amazed at how little improvement I see in this so-called major update.

Last year, I took a long, hard look at Vista versus desktop Linux, testing SimplyMEPIS 6, in a four-part series. In the months since then, we've learned that Microsoft lied about how much hardware was needed to run Vista in an affair that we're now calling Vistagate.

Personally, I didn't need to see Microsoft/Intel e-mails to know that "Vista Capable" PC requirements were so much BS. I found that doubling Microsoft's minimum daily PC requirements would get you to the point of a bearable Vista experience. Not a good one, mind you, just one that wouldn't have you pulling out your hair.

SP1 was supposed to make this better. Or, to be more precise, it was supposed to improve Vista's performance, fix problems and improve its interoperability. In my fortnight of living with Vista, I've found it's done none of the above.

This time, I ran Vista on two different systems. The first was the same HP Pavilion Media Center TV m7360n PC I had used in my 2007 MEPIS-vs.-Vista test. The m7360n has a hyperthreaded 2.8GHz Pentium D 920 dual-core processor, 4MB of Level 2 cache, an 800MHz front-side bus, and 2GB of DDR (double-data-rate) RAM. It also has a 300GB SATA hard drive; a dual-layer, multiformat LightScribe DVD/CD burner; and a DVD-ROM drive.

This system also has six USB 2.0, two FireWire, one VGA, one S-Video and one composite AV ports. And it comes with a 9-in-1 memory card reader, 10/100BaseT Ethernet, 56K-bps V.92 modem and 802.11g Wi-Fi. For graphics, it has an NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE video card (which takes up 256MB of the system's main RAM) and Intel Azalea high-definition audio with 5.1-channel surround sound.

My other test box was a Gateway 835GM. This is another older�circa 2005�system. It has a dual-core 2.8GHz Intel Pentium D 820 with the Intel 945G Express for graphics. I had upgraded it to 2GB of DDR RAM.

Like the HP Pavilion, it started life as a Windows Media Center PC.

Now, I did not expect either system to be great with Vista. Neither one has the horses for that. If you really want to run Vista, I think you need 3GB of RAM, a dedicated graphics processor with a minimum of 256MB RAM of its own, and a modern dual-core processor like the 2.33GHz Intel Core2 Duo E6550. I did expect better than what I found, though.

These same two systems, however, are killer desktop Linux PCs. On each of them I used the following Linux distributions over the last year: OpenSUSE 10.3, SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) 10 SP1, MEPIS 6.5 and 7.0, and Kubuntu 7.10. Each of these Linuxes ran lightning quick.

There were some hardware compatibility quirks at first, but nothing that took more than a couple of minutes to fix with any of these distributions.

In short, these computers made great Linux PCs. It was a different story with Vista SP1. For my tests, I didn't try to upgrade either system to Vista.

Microsoft has admitted that SP1 has hardware incompatibilities with some hardware on already working Vista systems. Don't ask me how they managed to break drivers that were already working on Vista PCs; they just did. So, I decided to skip these potential issues and do complete delete, reformat and install routines on each PC.

That didn't stop hardware installation problems, though. First, I ran into serious hardware incompatibilities. With the m7360n, it kept setting the NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE to a too-high frequency setting for my 19-inch Gateway FPD1960 flat-screen monitor. What the heck?

This was the same setup that had worked out of the box with original Vista! I mean, it hadn't worked well, but at least I got a display. I finally got past this by burning my own Vista SP1 disc with the latest (169) NVIDIA ForceWare Release drivers patched in. And people say installing Linux is hard! Ha!

That worked, but then on both systems, Vista failed to get the basic audio working. This is insane. The audio on both systems is supplied by the plain-Jane RealTek ALC 882 audio chip set. What makes it even worse is that I saw this same problem more than a year ago with the first version of Vista. Come on, Microsoft, this is basic audio. This same audio hardware works great with all the Linuxes.

The Vista experience control told me that both systems were capable of running the fancy-dancy Aero graphics interface, albeit without its most complicated features. No, they weren't. Translucency is the only Aero feature I ever got to work, and when I did even that, it felt like I was in an old-fashioned manual transmission car and I had just switched to a lower gear. You could actually see the PC slowing down to make the display a bit prettier.

In all fairness, I'm also not thrilled with Compviz 0.5.2, Linux's 3-D interface equivalent to Aero. My problem with Compviz is that its development has recently slowed to a crawl and you really must tweak it to get the best performance out of it. On the other hand, you'll get far more graphical goodies out of it than Aero on 2005/2006 hardware. On 2008's finest systems, Vista Aero should outperform Compviz, but I haven't had a chance to test this out yet.

What I can say, though, is that while Vista PC�s overall performance has improved, it's still not the equal of any of the Linux distributions on my hardware. I also discovered, and this really was a surprise to me, that Vista SP1's network performance was beyond awful.

I run my systems on a small network of about 20 workstations and four servers. Because I use my LAN for testing, I can switch it from its usual hybrid AD (Active Directory)/domain infrastructure to a pure AD model to an LDAP (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol) framework. No matter how I set up the network, my Vista PCs averaged over a minute, over Gigabit Ethernet, just to display the servers. Logging in to the network appeared to be going faster, but then I discovered from the network logs that the Vista PCs were using cached server log-in sessions rather than actually checking to see if the servers were alive.

File copying over the network, as you would guess, was also a painful experience. Microsoft's Mark Russinovich wrote an excellent blog posting explaining how Vista SP1 handles file copying, and why it may appear slower than XP, and I'll add to Linux his list.

Part of it is that Microsoft has saved its network file performance improvements for its SMB2 network file protocol. SMB2 is only available in Vista and Server 2008. In theory, this should be released to Samba, along with the rest of Microsoft's proprietary protocols. In practice, Microsoft recently talked a good open game. I didn't believe it then and since the European Union whacked Microsoft with a $1.35 billion fine, I guess they don't buy it either.

So, if you're running Linux servers or older Microsoft servers like Server 2003 or earlier, expect to see poor network performance. I also found that, and for this I don't have an explanation, Vista is awful at USB 2.0 file transfers. That's not too big a deal if you're just backing up the day's work on a USB stick. However, if you're doing graphics work, for example, and using a USB 2.0-connected storage device for your images, you're going to notice a real performance drop.

I also found that applications fared poorly in general on Vista SP1. I found Microsoft Office 2003, for example, to be more sluggish on Vista SP1 than it was running with CrossOver Linux 6.2 and Linux on the exact same hardware. Yes, that's right: Windows applications ran faster on Linux than they did on Vista. Now, it wasn't a lot faster, but I found that, on average, Office 2003 was about 5 to 10 percent faster on Linux with CrossOver than on Vista SP1.

At day's end, what I found was that Vista SP1 really has not improved that much from Vista. The Linux desktop, on the other hand, has improved since I first compared MEPIS 6 to Vista. It's not so much Linux has improved its performance as it has increased its ease of use and hardware compatibility. The Linux desktop of early 2008 is clearly better than the Linux desktop of early 2007. The same cannot be said of Vista.

XP SP3, on the other hand, is a step forward from XP SP2. I find it more than a little odd that Microsoft is pushing Vista, which is a failure, no matter how Microsoft cuts its prices. XP SP3, not Vista SP1, is Microsoft's real competition for the steadily improving Linux desktop.

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols


Do you have comments on this story?

Talkback here

NOTE: Please post your comments regarding our articles using the above link. Be sure to use this article's title as the "Subject" in your posts. Before you create a new thread, please check to see if a discussion thread is already running on the article you plan to comment on. Thanks!



Related Stories:

Approaching the Linux Desktop
The purpose of this paper is to help organizations evaluate the Linux desktop against their own enterprise needs and discover what benefits the Linux desktop might bring to their organizations.

Migrating To Linux: Application Challenges and Solutions
Several solutions exist to help organizations migrate in an orderly fashion from Windows to Linux desktops. This paper establishes the characteristics of an ideal cross-platform solution and reviews these alternatives in light of this ideal standard. The paper takes a closer look at the pros and cons of various solutions and outlines the business benefits that can be achieved.

Linux Advantages: Publicly Available Information on Linux Software
This paper offers a brief summary of readily-available Linux information to help businesses sort out this widely misunderstood operating system.

Top 5 Strategies for Managing Linux
Despite continuous evolution in the manageability of Linux, a 2006 survey cited manageability concerns as a top reason why organizations are hesitating to adopt Linux. Levanta believes Linux can be as manageable, if not more so, than other operating systems by following key strategies. These strategic recommendations were developed from experiences in numerous customer environments, both large and small.

Why Choose Novell for Linux?
This paper outlines the benefits of switching to the Linux platform and choosing Novell as a high-performance, enterprise solution.

Enterprise Linux Selection Guide
Considering moving your enterprise to the Linux operating system? Since there are so many similar versions, choosing the right one can be tough. This paper offers a clear process to help you make an informed decision and get the features, support, and cost that are right for your business and technical needs.

Overcoming Challenges in Managing Linux
Levanta has created a new administration model with innovative technology that breaks down the barriers to making the most of Linux systems. This paper will provide an in-depth look at the workings of Levanta’s product, the first Linux appliance of its kind.

SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 for Retail Businesses
Discover why major retailers have switched to SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop in the back office. SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is a low-cost desktop that offers a complete set of productivity applications and interoperates seamlessly with the other Windows, Macintosh and UNIX desktops in your store.

Moving to a Linux Desktop
Migrating from Windows to Linux on the desktop can be a substantial undertaking because it has the potential for touching -- and perhaps disrupting -- every user in your organization. Unlike a data center (server and infrastructure) migration that is largely transparent to users, the cultural and administrative transitions and environment readiness required to support a Linux desktop migration are extensive.

Seven Good Reasons to Exchange Exchange
This paper describes seven compelling reasons why you should switch from Exchange to Scalix.

 



Got a HOT tip?   please tell us!

ADVERTISEMENT
(Advertise here)

Resource Library


Popular recent stories:
• Linux an equal Flash player
• Linux, netbooks threaten Microsoft's fat profits
• gOS 3.0 goes gold
• Browser swallows OS
• Lenovo denies ditching Linux
• Lightweight, Linux-compatible browser evolves
• GNOME 2.24 gains "Empathy" IM
• Review: Pardus Linux
• Ubuntu to fund Linux development
• Ubuntu "Intrepid Ibex" available

All-time Classics:
• Choosing a desktop Linux distro
• Banshee -- the next best thing to Linux iTunes
• Running World of Warcraft on Ubuntu
• A simple Linux backup method
• The Best Free Desktop Linux . . . and how to make it better
• Linux-powered Asus Eee PC mini-laptop arrives
• The well-tempered Debian desktop
• Lenovo launches a netbook
• What's the best Linux for beginners?
• Getting to know Puppy Linux
• Xandros 4: The best desktop Linux for Windows users
• VirtualBox: The best virtualization program you've never heard of

Linux-Watch headlines:
• Amid controversy, Microsoft launches open source foundation
• As open source surges, Microsoft admits Linux threat
• Open source lobbying group emerges
• Open source Linux device drivers submitted by -- Microsoft?
• Google names Chrome OS partners
• Google's new OS marries Linux and Chrome
• Debian plans draw sharp warning from GNU guru
• OpenSource World announces keynote speakers
• Linux 2.6.30 gets new filesystems
• Intel to buy Wind River for $884 million


Join our Desktop Linux discussion forums:
•  Moving to Linux
•  Linux/Windows debate!
•  Linux Q&A
. . . and more
Visit the...


BREAKING NEWS

• Knoppix Live CD distro rev'd
• Debian Linux-based Google Chrome OS debuts, goes open source
• Mint 8 achieves RC1, and Fedora 12 goes final
• Dell PCs cram multimedia power into tiny package
• OpenSUSE 11.2 and Novell's Mono Tools ship
• ABI's Jeffrey Orr on rising Linux netbook sales
• Moblin v2.1 goes beta, adds 3G support
• Linux owns 32 percent of netbook market, says study
• Skype working on open source VoIP UI
• Ubuntu 9.10 final ships as IBM spins Ubuntu-based cloud distro
• CentOS rev's to version 5.4, tries on KVM
• Fedora 12 optimized for Atom-powered netbooks
• Puppy Linux 4.3 gains bugfix, rave reviews
• Hulu comes to Linux
• Reviews praise Ubuntu 9.10, knock Ubuntu Moblin Remix



Linux Netbooks


Linux smartphones!


news feed

Or, follow us on Twitter...


Home  |  News  |  Articles  |  Forum  |  Polls  |  About  |  Contact
 

Ziff Davis Enterprise Home | Contact Us | Advertise | Link to Us | Reprints | Magazine Subscriptions | Newsletters
Tech RSS Feeds | White Papers | ROI Calculators | Tech Podcasts | Tech Video | VARs | Channel News

Baseline | Careers | Channel Insider | CIO Insight | DesktopLinux | DeviceForge | DevSource | eSeminars |
eWEEK | Enterprise Network Security | LinuxDevices | Linux Watch | Microsoft Watch | Mid-market | Networking | PDF Zone |
Publish | Security IT Hub | Strategic Partner | Web Buyer's Guide | Windows for Devices

Developer Shed | Dev Shed | ASP Free | Dev Articles | Dev Hardware | SEO Chat | Tutorialized | Scripts |
Code Walkers | Web Hosters | Dev Mechanic | Dev Archives | igrep

Use of this site is governed by our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Except where otherwise specified, the contents of this site are copyright © 1999-2009 Ziff Davis Enterprise Holdings Inc. All Rights Reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part in any form or medium without express written permission of Ziff Davis Enterprise is prohibited. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. All other marks are the property of their respective owners.